Update 2:41It just ended. I only missed one speaker. Sorry about that guys. The hearings are done for today.
Update 2:35New Speaker! Joe's Guess:
Pro-Clemens - 2:15 PM
Now, if this guy stays true to his statement that he's more interested in the course of the report, we may have our first neutral examination of the day. This is boring. It is the question Matt and I have been asking since this report was released: How can Clemens claim ignorance if Mitchell states each athlete was contacted and offered the chance to talk to him?
Clemens claims he did not receive any notice about a talk about steriods. He says they would not disclose the reasons for the meeting.
Verdict: I may give him our first neutral vote, but for fun I'll say
Anti-Clemens since he stuck to Clemens the entire time. It is just a game anyway (possible the newest drinking game sensation in college dorms. That is right kids, start taping these hearings now!)
Little chaos on the speakers here. Things got out of control. I lost track of who went where. No real questions were asked or answered. No harm, no foul.
New Speaker! Joe's Guess:
Anti-Clemens - 2:21 PM
I really am guessing before they go into their questioning, I swear it. This guy wants Clemens's blood. I hope he asks the questions necessary to get it. I will write the longest letter of apology if Clemens never did steroids, but for now let us try and get the truth out of him.
My hopes for this set of questions was so high. I had so much faith that we might get somewhere. Some old questions though: Why were Andy's allegations true and not yours? Same stuff over and over again. These hearings are starting to become very predictable. They have about 20 minutes to win me over with some really strong questioning.
Verdict:
Anti-Clemens: This was interesting cause at the end he called Clemens one of his heroes, but he also said over and over again that he finds it hard to believe Clemens. He was there to gun at Clemens.
New Speaker! Joe's Guess:
Pro-Clemens - 2:26 PM
Quote: "I view you as a police officer who was a drug dealer" - Congressman on McNamee. Mike Francessa just interrupted a string of questions to tell me Jason Kidd got traded. The NBA ruins everything.
Quote: "I only did what the players asked, and that was wrong" - McNamee
The congressman is trying to to have McNamee admit being a drug dealer. He got a roundabout admission "Were you giving drugs? - Yes Were they illegal? - Yes" sort of thing. This guy is getting at McNamee. We get it. Both of these guys are jerks.
Verdict:
Pro-Clemens. Maybe better: Anti-McNamee.
I'm tapping out for awhile. Nothing new.
Fight the good fight.
- Joe
Update 2:15New Speaker! Joe's Guess:
Pro-Clemens. - 1:50 PM
I'm getting tired of the mandatory 2 minute rant by each speaker about whatever it is they want to say (one talked about how congress does a lot of important things, this guy is about the overall use of PED in all levels of sports). Sorry for that rant - back to the hearings.
Nothing exciting here right now. They are just rehashing everything we already know/have known. Verdict:
Anti-Clemens? We can debate that but it definitely wasn't pro-Clemens.
New Speaker! Joe's Guess:
Anti-Clemens - 1:56 PMThis guy was short and to the point. Just stating that there are a ton of open questions left from both the report and these hearings.
Verdict:
Pro-Clemens: The shot at the end at McNamee's credibility sold it. Nothing new though.
New Speaker! Joe's Guess:
Pro-Clemens - 2:04 PM
Another 2 minute rant. This time: Why is Congress doing this? This lady doesn't like it. Well thank you, now ask Roger which cheek he prefers the needle in. Sorry about that (again).
Oh. I'm so right about this one. Her first question to McNamee: Are you going to try and make money off of this? McNamee wouldn't dare say yes to this, even though in 18 months we'll all be reading: The Rocket and Me: Blasting Steriods Into the Unknown by Mr. Dr. McNamee, SJ.
Clemens offers to read his wife's statement. I don't want to misquote any of it so I won't transcribe it but talks about Debbie's interest in human growth hormone after reading an article on it. Debbie admits using human growth hormone once with the help of McNamee. It is only once. Debbie feels like a pawn now that McNamee is coming out against Clemens. There is also a small section about why people should never do it now. Main point: Debbie Clemens admits to using HGH and admits that McNamee got it for her (offered it to her actually).
Ha! Now she is comparing pictures of Clemens before and after the alleged steriods use. He looks very similar in all the pictures. I nailed this one. She
loves Clemens. Clemens must be loving this question.
Verdict:
Pro-Clemens. If that is even fair to say. More like
Pro-Pro-Pro-Pro-Clemens.
Update 1:45This round of questions circled around a recorded conversation between Clemens's team and McNamee. It seems like Clemens's team was trying to find out what kind of evidence McNamee had on Clemens. Clemens claims no knowledge of the methods of his investigators. Good tactics, Rog.
Clemens, under oath: "This man has never given me HgH...or any steroids of any kind." I'll keep that to show my kids what it means to be a liar.
Interesting note from one speaker: From his experience as a lawyer, the needles would not be admissible in any American court. I'm going to make a few phone calls to see if that is true. That's interesting.
More sob stories from Clemens. These stories are meant to show that he is a very public/'findable' person. Basically, if anyone wanted to talk to Clemens about steroids and hear how much he hates them, they could have.
New Speaker!
There is a fun game to play if you're reading/listening/watching: Guess if the speaker is pro-Clemens or anti-Clemens before he starts to question and see how many you can get right in a row. If you've been listening to this all morning, no one is really staying neutral.
Fun moment: Clemens doesn't know what a vegan is. God Bless Texas. This speaker is trying to understand why a healthy, red blooded, meat-eating American would need additional B-12 injections if he wasn't a vegan, 90 years old, or anemic.
Clemens: "He jumped on me like he was trying to start a Harley-Davidson" in regards to his chiropractors trying to adjust his spine. This speaker is attacking why Clemens would use McNamee for so many of his medical procedures when McNamee isn't a trained professional (even if Clemens believed in his fake Phd).
New Speaker! Joe's Guess:
Pro-Clemens.
It took all of 5 seconds for this guy to come out as
Pro-Clemens. Just like his mother, we all should be taking B-12 injections. Nothing major from this guy. It is a good moment to refresh the blog.
Update 1:30We are once again talking about the nanny. Clemens is explaining his contact with her and explains it as a meeting between old friends. He is not denying the nanny's claim that she was at the part or even that his family was there. He is sort of going back and forth here from he wasn't there to he could have been there to now he may have dropped them off but he definitely wasn't buying drugs there.
Questions pertaining to McNamee are interesting. Had he ever used Clemens' likeness without Clemens' knowledge? Does he have a degree? McNamee wrote his dissertation on training and increasing velocity in pitchers. That’s cute. It seems like he attended some mail-in school. 'Dr.' McNamee...hah! I forgot that from the Mitchell Report appendices. These questions went no where. What a waste.
New speaker (I'm bad at catching their names, mostly because most of them take a minute or so to realize they should speak into the microphones) is up.
Original PostNow that Matt has gone to class, I will be picking up for a little bit. It’s about 1:20 PM and they just started up again. Here we go.